{"id":309,"date":"2017-09-20T17:40:19","date_gmt":"2017-09-20T15:40:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/?page_id=309"},"modified":"2017-09-22T09:05:37","modified_gmt":"2017-09-22T07:05:37","slug":"milesienii","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/instrumentum\/perioada-presocratica\/milesienii\/","title":{"rendered":"Milesienii"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>I. Informa\u021bii biografice relevante:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Nu ni s-au transmis prea multe informa\u021bii despre via\u021ba \u0219i implicarea politic\u0103 a milesienilor, iar ceea ce a ajuns la noi pare s\u0103 fi fost filtrat (la fel ca \u0219i \u00een cazul majorit\u0103\u021bii filosofilor antici) prin locurile comune ale tipului de nara\u021biune \u00een\u021besat cu exemple \u0219i anecdote.<\/p>\n<pre><a href=\"http:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Thales_of_Miletus._Stipple_engraving_by_F._Ramberg._Wellcome_V0005772.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-311\" src=\"http:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Thales_of_Miletus._Stipple_engraving_by_F._Ramberg._Wellcome_V0005772-207x300.jpg\" alt=\"Thales_of_Miletus._Stipple_engraving_by_F._Ramberg._Wellcome_V0005772\" width=\"207\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Thales_of_Miletus._Stipple_engraving_by_F._Ramberg._Wellcome_V0005772-207x300.jpg 207w, https:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Thales_of_Miletus._Stipple_engraving_by_F._Ramberg._Wellcome_V0005772.jpg 531w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 207px) 100vw, 207px\" \/>\r\n<\/a><strong>            Thales din Milet, gravur\u0103 de F. Ramberg<\/strong> (<a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Thales_of_Miletus._Stipple_engraving_by_F._Ramberg._Wellcome_V0005772.jpg\">surs\u0103<\/a>)<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Se crede c\u0103 \u00een timpul vie\u021bii Thales ar fi fost un apropiat al tiranului Miletului, Trasibulos. Diogene Laertios ne spune c\u0103 Thales l-a sf\u0103tuit pe tiran s\u0103 evite o alian\u021b\u0103 cu Cresus \u00eempotriva per\u0219ilor, pentru a evita represaliile celor din urm\u0103. Herodot, la r\u00e2ndul s\u0103u, prive\u0219te cu scepticism povestea conform c\u0103reia Thales l-ar fi ajutat pe Cresus s\u0103 treac\u0103 r\u00e2ul Halys, consider\u00e2nd-o fictiv\u0103, ceea ce pare a fi consistent cu distan\u021barea fa\u021b\u0103 de Regatul Lidiei dup\u0103 cum apare \u00een cazul sfatului dat tiranului Miletului. \u0218i mai interesant este c\u0103 Thales ar fi propus o alian\u021b\u0103 \u00eentre ora\u0219ele state de pe coasta Asiei Mici cu un singur congres pentru deliber\u0103ri la Theos (v. infra).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dac\u0103 e s\u0103 ne \u00eencredem \u00een sursele antice, Anaximandru ar fi fost la un moment dat ambasador \u00een Sparta cu \u021belul de a negocia o alian\u021b\u0103 \u00eempotriva amenin\u021b\u0103rii persane (Herodot). De asemenea, la un moment dat ar fi fost \u00eens\u0103rcinat de metropola Milet s\u0103 conduc\u0103 colonia Apollonia (Sozopol \u00een Bulgaria ast\u0103zi), ceea ce, dac\u0103 este adev\u0103rat, c\u0103 Anaximandru avea \u0219i \u00eendatoriri legislative.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Despre Anaximene, din p\u0103cate, nu s-au p\u0103strat informa\u021bii relevante din punct de vedere politic.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">(Surse:\u00a0 Diogene Laertios , <em>Despre vie\u0163ile \u015fi doctrinele filosofilor<\/em> I, 1, 22-27; 38; II, 1, 1-2; Herodot, <em>Istorii<\/em> I, 69, 75; 170; Aelian, <em>Istorii<\/em>, III, 17).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>II. Context:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen perioada \u00een care au tr\u0103it filosofii milesieni (cca. 630-530 \u00ee.e.n.) principale puteri din zona Asiei Mici erau Regatul Lidiei \u0219i Imperiul Mezilor. Aceste dou\u0103 mari puteri se aflau erau \u00een conflict, dar ambele sunt cucerite \u00eentre 550 \u0219i 540 de Cyrus cel Mare, \u00eentemeietorul Imperiului Ahemenid sau Persan.<\/p>\n<pre><a href=\"http:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Median_Empire.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-308\" src=\"http:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Median_Empire.jpg\" alt=\"Median_Empire\" width=\"1306\" height=\"735\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Median_Empire.jpg 1306w, https:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Median_Empire-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Median_Empire-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Median_Empire-1024x576.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1306px) 100vw, 1306px\" \/><\/a>\r\n<strong> Regatul Lidiei \u0219i Imperiul Mezilor \u00een jurul anului 600 \u00ee.e.n. <\/strong>(<a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Median_Empire.jpg\">sursa<\/a>)<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>III. Fragmente:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cu privire la o form\u0103 de organizare statal\u0103, un detaliu interesant despre Thales afl\u0103m de la Herodot:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201eSfatul dat de milesianul Thales, cel ce cobora din neam fenician, \u00eenainte ca Ionia s\u0103 cad\u0103 sub jug, s-a dovedit folositor; \u00eentr-adev\u0103r, el a pov\u0103\u021buit pe ionieni s\u0103 fie reprezentanta\u021bi printr-un singur senat (<strong>\u03b2\u03bf\u03c5\u03bb\u03b5\u03c5\u03c4\u03ae\u03c1\u03b9\u03bf\u03bd<\/strong>), iar acesta s\u0103 aib\u0103 sediul la Teos (Teos-ul afl\u00e2ndu-se \u00een centrul Ioniei) iar cet\u0103\u021bile celelalte, \u00eempreun\u0103 cu locuitorii lor, s\u0103 nu se considere mai prejos de demos-uri.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">(Herodot, <em>Istorii<\/em>, I, 170, traducere de M. Marinescu-Himu, \u00een <em>Filosofia greac\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 la Platon<\/em> I, 1, p. 155)<\/p>\n<pre style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/640px-Priene_Bouleuterion_2009_04_28.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-314\" src=\"http:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/640px-Priene_Bouleuterion_2009_04_28.jpg\" alt=\"640px-Priene_Bouleuterion_2009_04_28\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/640px-Priene_Bouleuterion_2009_04_28.jpg 640w, https:\/\/hiphi.ubbcluj.ro\/fam\/morfologiapolitica\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/640px-Priene_Bouleuterion_2009_04_28-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><strong>\r\nRuinele bouleuterion-ului din Priene<\/strong> (<a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Priene_Bouleuterion_2009_04_28.jpg\">sursa<\/a>)<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Bouleuterion (gr. \u0392\u03bf\u03c5\u03bb\u03b5\u03c5\u03c4\u03ae\u03c1\u03b9\u03bf\u03bd)<\/strong> era locul unde se \u00eentrunea adunarea cet\u0103\u021benilor (gr. \u03b2\u03bf\u03c5\u03bb\u03ae) \u00eentr-un ora\u0219-stat din lumea greac\u0103 antic\u0103 pentru a delibera \u0219i decide cu privire la chestiunile publice.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O baz\u0103 de date cu informa\u021bii despre bouleuteria din lumea greac\u0103 pute\u021bi g\u0103si <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fhw.gr\/projects\/bouleuterion\/en\/\">aici<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I. Informa\u021bii biografice relevante: Nu ni s-au transmis prea multe informa\u021bii despre via\u021ba \u0219i implicarea politic\u0103 a milesienilor, iar ceea ce a ajuns la noi pare s\u0103 fi fost filtrat (la fel ca \u0219i \u00een cazul majorit\u0103\u021bii filosofilor antici) prin locurile comune ale tipului de nara\u021biune \u00een\u021besat cu exemple \u0219i anecdote. 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